MJJSTREET Michael Jackson Ireland Fan Club

50000 digital music  files, I find that a lot. I don't understand why they put all his back catalogue like this on line without security.In fact we all know that there is  no security on line....

from twitter

@SuzanneMarks1
The press reported about my Husband is false! Its a case of them making up the parts they dont have yet, this is a stitch up from day one!

@SuzanneMarks1
MJJC & their staff need to get their story straight b4 posting bout my husbands case, MJJC have been lieing for months the truth is coming

@Ivy_MJJC
@SuzanneMarks1 it's not "our" story but what we have been told. We believe to be misled about the source of them

@SuzanneMarks1
@Ivy_MJJC MJJC is caught in this situation because Gaz leaked cascio snippets & James's mix on Ustream

@Ivy_MJJC
@SuzanneMarks1 What we have been told by James versus what we have been told by law enforcement has been two different things.

@SuzanneMarks1
@Ivy_MJJC Also Gaz was well aware of the situation and asked James and Cartman to find more rarities for MJJC Exclusives!

@SuzanneMarks1
@Ivy_MJJC Of course it was, like they changed the charges 30 minutes before hearing because they had no hope of prosecuting him.

@Ivy_MJJC
@SuzanneMarks1 and also what I meant by caught in the middle was totally different than what u r talking abt. ps: What are the charges?

@SuzanneMarks1
@Ivy_MJJC Also I dont see the relevance of this, Gaz was beggning them for the cascio tracks and other demos to leak on MJJC

@SuzanneMarks1
Wait until court, see the evidence, we have both screenshots and logs of Gaz's begging for unreleased music, dont let them lie anymore

MJJC STATEMENT REGARDING THE SONY HACKING

Dear Members

Birchey did share snippets and mixes for us to play on our ustream show as they were greatly done and like many other professional fan mad mixes ones in which the fans loved to listen to.

However we had no prior knowledge of how they were obtained what was in them or that they were indeed stolen in the manner that they were.

MJJCommunity was served a warrant to surrender its server to SOCA due to the case they had against Birchey for accessing its server and stealing its content.

We had no choice but to adhere,

It was then that we were made aware where these mixes these snippets had come from, thus a blanket ban of all such across MJJC.

Be aware many dj's many fans send me/us fan made mixes of Michael Jackson songs many of which are freely available on Youtube.

I was and am still very angry with those who stole these songs based on what could have happened to our beloved community at one point I was going to publicly out those who stole and shared with the innocent without telling them where these items had come from, never was our beef with the Estate or Sony, I in one of my tweets used the term "seriously dertail" this term should have been "seriously detail" we/I was very upset based on the happenings and was only every angry at those who stole putting an entire community in jeopardy for personal greed.

From this day forward we work closely with the legal team of Sony to ensure we comply with all copyright policies, this is not a partnership nor a working relationship but one to ensure our community is safe and complies on all accounts.

We are innocent and there is no case directed at MJJC due to our due diligence in this matter our handling of our operations relating to copyright and our consistent efforts to assist those who are the owners of said material.

Regards
Gary M Taylor
Senior Admin/Owner MJJCommunity

I know, this has far wider implications, the fact that fans and a fansite involved, that people can turn a blind eye to the crime being committed all so that they can have rare and exclusive songs, that they can get their Michael fix no matter the consequences, that fans have so little respect for Michael's life work that they can just go and take whatever they like and use it how ever they like.

MJJSTREET from the very start has always had a zero tolerance policy about posting links to leaked songs. In fact I have not listened to, never mind downloaded ANY of the songs which have leaked since June 09. I have always felt that song leaks are wrong, so much so that I refused to even listen to ESCAPE when it leaked, refusing to have anything to do with it cos Michael was so upset and angry. Knowing how much it hurt him to have his work stolen, I just can not justify or condone illegal leaks

posted by IVY on MJJC

A little background: Sometime in March last year, Birchey warned us that someone got HT remixes from a promotional link that Sony sent to Dj’s and told us to watch out and not allow links to it as posting links to official material is against MJJC policy.

In early April, Birchey on our forums had written that he had all 12 Cascio songs. Obviously everyone was curious about it. When we were discussing it, he said that the songs were obtained by similar fashion to the HT remixes. He said the songs were easily and openly accessible through a promotional link Sony sends out to DJ’s and that someone gave the link to him. Birchey told us that he notified Sony of the breach and helping them to stop it. Also he said that he’ll never leak the songs and will stop anyone from doing so as well.

As you can see at that time we had no reason to think that this was intentional, or it was a theft, or it was anti-Sony or anti-Cascio. As far as we know, it was quite the contrary; we believed Birchey to stumble upon these semi-public songs and he was doing his best to the point of working with Sony to stop the breach in the servers and future leaks. That’s what we believed to be true at that time and therefore did not see a problem. All of our interactions and actions were based on this belief we had at that time.

Sometime later small snippets started to get posted around the Internet – not by Birchey – and sometimes they found their way to MJJC as well. At that time we received regular copyright claims from Sony asking us to remove the links as it’s their copyrighted material. This didn’t raise any alarms as at that time they were communicated to us as regular copyright claims and we occasionally get them for MJ and non-MJ material.

Then one day came the shocking news that Birchey was arrested for fraud. We couldn’t make sense of it as we thought he was helping Sony with the breach in their servers and we never thought he could be involved in any leaking as he was the one that warned us about any potential leaks to stop them. There was a lot of confusion going on and we didn’t understand what was happening. We were shocked and worried – both for Birchey and MJJC. Soon we learned from Birchey that Sony was claiming that he took and leaked the songs intentionally to reduce their future value. I have to add that Birchey denied these claims in our conversations.

Then came the law enforcement. We were notified that they wanted access to MJJC to investigate the claims against Birchey and later on they executed a court issued warrant and confiscated MJJC servers from MJJC's hosting provider. It was out of our control. That was the time MJJC was down for multiple days and when we didn’t know if we’ll get back the servers or not.

Sometime during that time we learned that Cartman was also arrested as a co-conspirator and we learned that Sony claims the songs weren’t that easily accessible as Birchey portrayed and it required a deliberate attempt and long search to find and get them – hence the hacking and stealing claims – and that they believed there was a motivation, an intent to get these songs (anti-cascio).

So that’s what we know. As I said before there’s not an “our story”, it’s just that there are two different versions to this event. What we have been told by Birchey and what we have been told by law enforcement has been two different things. It’s not our place to determine who is right or wrong. It’s a question for a court, judge and jury.

Despite the recent accusations against MJJC, I also want to say that as MJJC staff we don’t want to see anyone – especially a fellow MJ fan that we know and loved for a long time – to get hurt. As I said to Birchey multiple times, our hope is that this gets resolved in a friendly manner and Birchey & Cartman as well as other parties can walk away from this with no damages whatsoever.

@Gaz_MJJC  
Try to blame me for you stealing these songs all you want, the law will see who is the criminal. #deluded

@Gaz_MJJC  
You never once said where they came from and how you got them, any fan would be excited to hear new music.

@Gaz_MJJC
blow all the smoke screens you want but you are the source, you are the criminal you stole Michaels Music his children's inheritance, not me

  Wow,      Theft plain and simple,   I have always paid for my music, vinyl, cassettes, CD's and now itunes.   I have never illegally downloaded, it would seem theres a generation born into a culture whereby downloading is completely acceptable to them.  Its not its STEALING!!!
   mind you I think I should prob shut up, Ive just remembered taping the top 40, and I must admit I have listened to tracks on youtube such as Slave to...., Escape, Its 12 o clock, Shout.... etc, Pot, kettle, black, eh?         Have you still never listened to Escape etc ?