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Author Topic: Melissa Johnsons Heal The World Foundation V The Estate of Michael Jackson  (Read 20016 times)

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Ben971

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It just shows once more how incompetent Johnson is, if there was any doubt, what kind of lawyer she has, how little KJ and Joe know or how manipulated they are.

All this is ridiculous.

LastTear

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For Joe and Katherine this must only be about the use of trademarks, if they have use of these it = $$$$

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this is all totally insane, and it now proves that its all about MONEY.

Some more from IVY on MJJC

Good question about the Board of Directors. Who are they? For some reason I thought that Melissa was a part of the board.
Melissa Johnson, Mel Wilson, Linda Mellinger, Katherine Jackson, Joe Jackson

It was settled with terms, they agreed and now they have concerns? Why did they sign it then?
Actually you got it right. They agree on a bunch of terms they sign it and later they state that they have concerns.

And why did they sign it then is the question we are also looking the answer for.

Ivy, why couldn't challenging the estate be the same as challenging the will? Some judge needs to tell Katherinto knock it off or she will lose her 40%! I know it's wishful thinking but I thought this settlement was a good thing for KJ
Unfortunately it's not.


POSTED BY IVY
I think the main question now how much of a role Howard Mann played in this new development.

As we all know the whole deal between HTWF and Mann was based on the trademarks that Melissa registered. He hoped Melissa / HTWF win and keep the trademarks so that they can produce goods with those trademarks and make money.

The settlement and the transfer of trademarks from HTWF to the Estate would shut down this deal completely.

With seeing the confidential settlement forwarded to Mann , my gut feeling tells me that Howard Mann is somewhat behind this development and again making a move towards MJ trademarks with the hopes of making money out of MJ related merchandise.

I have to say it's astounding since legal counsel were involved...the first thing you establish in a settlement is who has the power to negotiate. What is your take on what went wrong here? Just curious...

Pro - HTWF Approach

- HTWF claims that Johnson signed the Settlement without authorization or permission from the Board of Directors.

(side note : however you are right who can negotiate what and who can sign what has to be established beforehand)

Middle of the Road approach

- HTWF realized the settlement wasn't to their best interest and is trying to get out of it by trying an excuse (board of directors didn't approve it)

(side note: Do you remember people that claimed this settlement a victory for HTWF and mentioning how happy Melissa was?)

Pro - Estate Approach

- HTWF never wanted this settlement (as they didn't do a single document) and this was a delay tactic.

(side note : remember how HTWF had trouble submitting evidence lists and the judge limited their evidence and this was a bench trial )

Skeptical Approach

- Howard Mann played a role on this as he wanted the trademarks for merchandise and profit.

take your pick

On the other hand, can someone explain to me that is this even possible that you can just throw the settlement out off the window like this.

In some instances you can make an argument to rescind a settlement such as if you were coerced to sign, you were frauded etc. For example very recently Winklevoss twins is taking the Facebook settlement to court saying that they were defrauded about the amount of settlement.

It seems like HTWF will make an argument based on charity's bylaws saying that it would require a majority board of directors approval and as Melissa Johnson didn't have this approval / permission the settlement has to be voided.

And again it seems like Estate will make a counter argument for this (we'll see this on the papers to be filed Thursday) and ask the judge to enforce the settlement.

And in a few months time we'll see what the judge decides and how will this go on.

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I'm a mixture between the pro estate approach and the sceptical approach  :no: This angers and saddens me so much, to them it's all about power and money, to us it's about Michael and our love and respect for him and his legacy. No wonder many would say he loved his fans even more than he loved his family.

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Ivy, what do you think might happen since the confidential settlement was forwarded to Mann? Is that illegal? They have proof that it was? I am not sure I understand what the implications might be. Thank you

yes it's illegal, what can happen would depend on the provisions and the harm
and they do have a proof of it. Apparently Howard Mann was copied to an email from HTWF lawyers to Estate lawyers


Ben971

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Johnson's lawyer must be a class mate of Oxmans. Really.



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Trouble in HTWF paradise : they apparently dont agree with their lawyer anymore :




And, interesting bit, it seems that Johnson is under investigation by the state attorney; check out line 9 to 11




From AJFS and Ivy

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Attorney General? that should be interesting. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that she was accepting and soliciting donations and purchasing trademarks.  There must be some guidelines that charities have to follow.

Wow when Mann gets involved people seem to shift lawyers alot  :no:

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 :omg:  :wtf:

5/18/2011
Michael Jackson Estate vs. Melissa Johnson
 
The MJ Estate filed it's answer on Brian Oxman asking for $4.000 reimbursment, becuase he appeared for a deposition back in February.

The MJ Estate amongst others claims:
- Oxman tried to avoid to be served with the subpoenas,
- He refused to go to the deposition,
- Failed to respond on the MJ Estate's form about reimbursing costs for him,
- He wanted to be part of this trial as he was submitting his witness statement to Johnson voluntary, later didn't want to testify on their side,
- No one locates on his office address, but a surplus store where he and his father are selling "anti-radiation" pills to the public following the earthquake in Japan,
- According to the process server "Oxman took the subpoena papers when he was served, clearly realising he had been caught and had little choise but to accept",
- After Oxman received the subpoenas his wife e-mailed the MJ Estate lawyers saying that Oxman won't be available on any of the dates mentioned,
- The MJ Estate lawyers just found out that Oxman and his wife (and partner in their law firm) has a long history of sending mails that no one receives finally, when they are in trouble,
- When the MJ Estate lawyers started to force him to appear for the deposition, he called them "incompetent", "rude" and offensive". When they were discussing the date of Oxman's deposition, if he will be available anytime he replied to the lawyer "well, aren't you a brave young lady?",
- Oxman wants to get money, because of the costs of "binding" the documents he produced. However the documents were not binded in any ways, aside from being rubberbanded,
- According to law Oxman has to be reimbirsed for around $100 that includes his travelling fees and so. This money has been sent to him 3 times over the past 2 months, last time he has been personally served with the check. And now he claims that he didn't get the money and wants $4.000,
- Oxman claims that he spent 12.3 hours on searching and collecting documents for the deposition and counts with his alleged $500 fee. At the end Oxman appeared on the deposition with only 5 documents, one of them was an empty envelope...
- Oxman has been suspended twice, first time in 1998 for similar incidents. And in 2009 when the California State Bar suspended his licence for 2 years.

Now how great attorney the Jackson family had for 25 years?

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com

Ben971

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OK I read tht this morning, and it cracked me up. How bad a lawyer this guy is, it's just surreal. I dont even get how he got a license in the first place. SMH

LastTear

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It was the empty envelope that got me  :tlaugh:

I hope we may learn more later if the estate file a motion today.  I'm really surprised this hasn't been picked up on news outlets yet and it's only being discussed on a few forums, I thought word would have spread by now.

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5/21/2011
Take Over
 
I'm happy to report about that despite the ongoing miseria around the Melissa Johnson case, the Michael Jackson Estate starteed to take over all the MJ trademarks. These includes:
Gone too soon
MJ
Heal the world

As well the original Heal The World foundation has been transferred temporary to a company. I guess soon it will be managed by the MJ Estate.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com

Ben971

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 :clapping: :clapping: Woohooooo!!!

Ben971

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Update from Leslie

Posted by LeslieMJHu on june 2d

Melissa Johnson Tidbit
Melissa Johnson's new lawyer claims that the Michael Jackson Estate tried to "influence the previous attorney with monetary compensation". He furthermore says that Johnson's side will hire more attorneys who have great experience within intellectual propert cases.

http://lesliemjhu.blogspot.com/2011/06/melissa-johnson-tidbit.html

Ben971

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And a little bit info from Ivy from MJJC


2 days ago a new lawyer filed a motion to be the new lawyer of HTWF. This is extremely important for HTWF because they cannot continue in this case without a lawyer and if they don't have a lawyer they would have a default judgement against them. The new lawyer is a personal injury and labor law lawyer that took an intellectual property class in law school so he's not really an expert in this matter. Like Leslie mentioned he says that HTWF is assembling a team of pro-bono and contingency lawyers that are expert in the area.


http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/110691-Breaking-News-HTWF-rejects-Settlement-MJ-Estate-versus-Melissa-Johnson-and-HTWF-**PAGE-76**/page33

Reminder :
Hearing before judge decision about the settlement is june 14th 10A.M